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Post by antonarkins on Aug 5, 2008 23:25:36 GMT -7
This is all based on my observational or having read the bio opinion - clearly it isn’t set in stone and essentially pits characters against one another in the absence of super-weaponry and outside influence. Essentially it compares characters as they are in a big ol’ blank room The toughest characters are at the top, with the list growing weaker as it goes down. Characters in the same tier are essentially even - and would likely have really long/epic fights. I’ve also left out characters that haven’t managed a post yet. And if you think I’m wrong, tell me why! This isn’t to stir up anything - but just for fun - as it’s clearly just based on my observational opinion Tier 1: Hellboy Prince Nuada Tier 2: Sister Angeleanna General Vryntil Imornthi Tier 3: Azazel-Ghul Johann Krauss - tentative I suppose? I was unsure where he would be on here to be honest Tier 4: Anton Arkins Frankie Guidicini Marillah Goldwater Tier 5: Jellas Fermout Abe Sapien Izdihar "Ivy" Daher Kasim Chionesu Tier 6: Isabella Cross - would be higher if she used her powers more Princess Nuala Tier 7: Pierce Hawkins Derek Tomland Tier 8: Solaufein De’Vir
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Post by ghul on Aug 6, 2008 9:12:43 GMT -7
I honestly would've put my guy on two, going off of who you also have up there. He's been alive for like 2,000 years doing what he does, everything else seems to fit. Krauss as tier two? I honestly have no idea where he'd be he's so versatile if you think about it.
Oh, XD
I'd move Kasim up, he has the training of every other 'suit', but he stood out in his skill so he probably would be at least tier 4.
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Post by Abe Sapien on Aug 6, 2008 15:55:16 GMT -7
I think this is pretty interesting but I figured Frankie would be higher up if you consider her healing abilities are a lot faster then Angel's which would aid her fighting. Unless we're just talking brute strength alone? Then Angel would be up there in strength but without a weapon in her hands, she almost doesn't know what to do with herself. This really makes you think though.
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Post by hellboy on Aug 6, 2008 16:44:34 GMT -7
For Ghul - I consider that all the people above him would tear him apart. Angeleanna has some monster strength and sufficient skill with a blade, while the General is a timeless elf and master warrior. Krauss - I figure - hey, those above him could pretty much just break his suit and force him to eventually dissipate and "die" again. The rest...less so. Plus, he could totally posses them or objects around them and knock them around. Kasim - His only skills are in guns - meaning that the far more nimble martial-arts characters would tear him up in a fist-fight - included in that fact that both Frankie and Arkins know their way around a gun keeps him in Tier 5 for me. Frankie - I'm on the fence with her...I might just give her Tier 4 alone and move everyone else down. She couldn't take the super-powered guys on to be honest - she's physically a very slender girl with natural weapons. I could see her and Arkins having a knock-down drag out fight with her eventually winning (due to her regeneration I would assume). But I couldn't see her beating Ghul or Krauss...or anyone higher than that. So I dunno...more discussion?
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Post by ghul on Aug 6, 2008 17:50:20 GMT -7
Yea, but you forgot that Ghuls also timeless and has fought everything from crusaders to modern fighters, and still even escaped the BPRD taking agents with him. Not to mention he has also demon strength. Honestly the ones above him might be able to keep up in the fight, or he could keep up with them, but experience says a big thing, which is why I think he's at least equal with them. Eh, its no big deal, I just thought he'd be further up.
When it comes to Kasim, we have to consider that for a human, with no superpowers, and on fight skill alone, he'd be higher. We're saying best in a fight, not most powerful, right? So characters with actual skill should, In my opinion, be higher than characters who are just strong, because strength doesn't win a fight.
I'd say the rest of your list is accurate, though I"m also on the fence with Frankie. She has the strength and healing and what not, but again it also depends on skill as well right? So I would go off of whether she has the skill to put behind that. So that means I gotta go...back to ze bios XD
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